posted September 11, 2002 16:05
I was talking with Mick Barr from Orthrelm the other night (he was formerly in Chromtech), and he admitted to using a lick from Psychic Vacuum on track 4 of the first Orthrelm e.p. on Tolotta records.
posted September 11, 2002 16:08
You could pick out a riff?! I've only heard some stuff on line and found it really inspiring (and fucking insane as well). Great stuff!!
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Mr. Phobia
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posted September 11, 2002 16:19
just last night, i heard the new foo fighters single, and i could swear he stole a riff from inner combustion or one of the songs on nothingface
posted September 11, 2002 16:45
Hmmm... Dave Grohl is a huge Voivod fan and knows the guys. If there is a Voivod reference in a Foo Fighters tune, I'll bet it's some sort of reference or nod to the Chaosmongers themselves. Check out the shirt!
Here's a cool interview with Dave about Probot. LINK
posted September 11, 2002 17:29
Orthrelm is just about the craziest music I've ever heard. I have 4 of their records now, and when I saw them live, I actually recognized quite a few parts.
Truly inspirational. The 3 shows I've seen this year that really blew my mind were Orthrelm, SUNN )), and Flux Information Sciences.
posted September 12, 2002 06:15
I don't understand why people would hate GRIHL. His having a fun time playing all kinds of different rock music, paying tribute to his heros with his Probot project and seems to be an all round cool guy.
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posted September 12, 2002 07:37
I'm looking forward to the Probot thing. After hearing the Motorhead style song that he's done for it, I can't wait to hear the rest, especially Snakes' bit. Should be a cool record. Those Orthrelm tunes from mp3.com are off thier tits! I haven't heard track 4, so I can't comment on the riff-robbery! I'll try and hunt it down. Shit man, this website is costing me a fucking fortune in new music! Cool!
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X-D
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posted September 12, 2002 12:28
I think there's an important difference between riff theft and paying homage to an artist you respect by referencing them in a song, lyrically or instrumentally.
A band like Orthrelm, or even a guy like Dave Grohl, who are influenced by Voivod obviously aren't trying to scam anyone by using a riff. Hell, even Nonphixon's logo (shudder ) is somewhat of a tribute to the band, although I still think they suck. It was Away's suggestion that they use that logo, after all.
It's when you try to capitalize on someone else's work, or deny the influence, that you cross over in to the lame zone. That's my opinion anyway. What do you all think?
posted September 13, 2002 05:21
Sounds like you're making perfect sense to me, X-D. Did Voivod ever admit to the Stravinsky 'borrowing'?!!
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Nate Carson
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posted September 14, 2002 16:08
Yeah I wouldn't call the Orthrelm thing theft at all. Legally, they could have sampled a Voivod riff three times longer.
It's a little tribute, and an inside joke that only a serious geek like me would even notice.
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)), and Flux Information Sciences.
posted September 12, 2002 07:37
) is somewhat of a tribute to the band, although I still think they suck. It was Away's suggestion that they use that logo, after all.
