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Topic: Get over it
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Delightful Little Capuchin Monkey
VoivodFan
Member # 65
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posted October 15, 2002 13:17
    
Okay, so Jason Newsted is playing bass in Voivod. Voivod is back together with Snake for the first time in 9 years. Cool. They're about to release the first album with Snake on Vocals since The Outer Limits and go on tour. Very cool. And why am I not surprised that there still exists this lame chorus of douche-nozzles spouting off about how awful Metallica and their fanbase is. If you belong to the above-mentioned group of whining retards, I have to make a suggestion: GET OVER IT. You'll feel so much better. If you had been like me and listened to the Black Album back in '91 and thought "Wow, I'm not into this. Oh well." and moved on and found other cool new bands to listen to, you wouldn't find yourselves 11 YEARS after the fact going onto thought-provoking forums for a great band like Voivod and continuing to bitch about how Metallica 'sold out'. Me? I like listening to Master of Puppets and Justice and Ride the Lightning and enjoy them as much as I did back when I bought them. Now Jason joins Voivod and they're going to get some extra press attention. They might even *gasp* get some new fans along the way. If there were ever a group of musicians who deserved to reap the rewards for their art, it's Voivod. Why the FUCK would any of you begrudge them that? The music is the same whether 100 poeple hear it or 10 million. So, some guy who goes to the Voivod show to see what Jason's up to now decides "hey - Voivod is REALLY GOOD" and picks up Killing Technology, Dimension, Nothingface, RRROOOARR or whatever. Boy, that would be a shame. *sarcasm*All I can say is this - bring on the Rolling Stone review of the new album. Bring on the write ups on MTV.com. Maybe now the general public will understand why bands like Sonic Youth, Metallica, Soundgarden, the Ramones, Sepultura et al. always talked about how good Voivod is. This is something we here all knew from the get-go, but don't you remember how completely mind-blowing it was the first time you heard them? I envy all those unsuspecting kids out there who are going to hear Dimension Hatross for the first time.
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Mr. Phobia
VoivodFan
Member # 66
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posted October 15, 2002 16:31
to hex on the x (x2):
wrong, wrong, are you wrong?
unhappy=creative
happy=dipshitthe only way to become pure is to enter the abyss
you've got to go crazy
walk into the fire and see if anything is left when things are stagnant, meaning no storm, bacteria grows and things become unpure, eaten through, and turned to shit
i hate where the slime live (but, i like the song) we need contrasting parts to create energy success makes you happy and the quest is dead he who dares, wins of course, some people hate material wealth, and are tortured by it in conclusion, read the lyrics to mind on fire by KREATOR
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K
VoivodFan
Member # 6
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posted October 15, 2002 19:14
Hey guys...
There aint NOTHIN wrong with "Paying your Dues" and building-up some Wealth so that later...
You can go back and support what you really love!Jasonic is on the Bass Tracks that they are Probably layin-down RIGHT NOW. Just give it a Chance, you paranoid crazies!  I say: VIVA LE VOIVOD!
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Skul
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Member # 19
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posted October 15, 2002 19:16
Y'know, this is all just a bunch of bullshit.I remember a couple years ago when the rumors started about Jason joining Voivod and immediatly a couple of people started to get all bent outta shape about "Oh, my little Voivod band is being taken away, it's not my secret little thing anymore".... BAH! So typical. I hate dumbass metalheads. It's not like they're gonna be plastered all over MTV and playin' the fucking Tonight Show anytime soon! For a band that has been around for so long, they most definately deserve their time in the sun. They have most indubitably paid their dues. And as for success, while they may have never achieved commercial success, they were able to make a name for themselves all over the world, and that's success to me. And to think that they'll become bland if they indeed become sucessful commercially, is a slap in the face of the whole band. We should just be grateful that they could stick it out that long, and we should be thankful that they got Snake back, and we should be thankful that they're recording a new record for US ALL instead of worrying about trivial fuckin' shit like that. If you're afraid to see them scoop a few more fans and sell a couple more albums from curious "metallihicks", you probably were never a fan anyway. Who would want them to fail?
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schroeder
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posted October 16, 2002 06:06
It's funny how people will hate to see a band they love achive sucess and fortune...why do you think they make music in the first place? They hope they can create something on their terms , in their unique way, and the public will buy it and they can make a good living doing their art, and not have to do the 9 to 5 job!!!You don't put out records in hopes to sell only 1500 copies, tour to empty clubs and loose you small lifes savings. It seems some people here would be happy if if Voivod weren't sucessful, and that's just stupid, and that doesn't make you a true fan, or a friend of those you admire in the first place. Do you think Away and Snake and Piggy sit around hoping all their fans loose their jobs, so they can't make money, and can't be successful...give it up or move on!!!  It would be great to see bands like Voivod, & King Crimson be embraced by the general public for what they create and sell platinum...but until the general public changes, it's good to see these bands stick it out for all these years and continue to release records.
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Dana
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Member # 130
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posted October 16, 2002 20:19
Hey Gerfat...I said what I said in the "Greetings from the Chophouse" thread regarding Jason escaping the clutches of Metallica... because this was a band that he was just the bass player for, he was not part of the song writing, arranging, etc... Jason paid his dues in this band, playing what he was told to with little to no input into the bands songs or direction because we all know that it was always about what Lars and James wanted... He was smart to ride the wave until the wave started consuming the band and he then had the smarts to get out... Did he make a huge pile of cash??? Hell yeah he did!!! What would you have done in his situation??? Walked away??? Yeah right!!!
You pay your dues, you make your contacts, you make your money and then you have the power to control your career... He can now play what he wants, with whoever he wants, and I give him a hell of alot of credit for doing it...
I am the first person that will admit that I am tried of debating the Jason/Metallica thing, but I felt that it needed to be said here because I dont think that alot of people truely understood how mistreated and disrespected Jason was by Lars and James... Jason has always poured his heart and soul into everything that he has ever been a part of, and I see know reason why any Voivod fan should think that he would give any less...
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Slaytanic
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posted October 16, 2002 23:02
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Originally posted by Skulhed:
Yah... but that was Troy Gregory on that record, though. Jason played on Doomsday for the Deceiver, 'member?  Loved his bass tone on there, too... Huge.
Must have been Troy on bass, but Jason (co)wrote almost every song on that album (this must include bass lines, correct me if I'm wrong  ). Anyway, Jason is on a position right now where he could do anything he wanted in life. I mean, every musician in the world (including James and Lars) would love to have him around playin' bass. And he chose Voïvod. See, as a permanent member, unlike the other few bands he played in after leaving Metallica. Some of you guys aren't dumbass metalheads, of course, BUT you are being unfair with the guy... BTW, as we can't have Blacky back in the band, Jason is the best second choice anyone could dream of!
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posted October 15, 2002 20:19
