However, I am waking up to the news that he has gone against everything he has ever said, and has decided that he would be willing to remove alll the illegal settlements in Palestine, in order to (hopefully) bring peace to the region. It may not be much, it may not solve anything, but it's a step in the right direction.

So, thankyou Mr. Sharon, for seeing reason. And thankyou to whoever it was holding the gun to his head.

It would be interesting to hear what Hex thinks of this.

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Originally posted by hexonxonx:
[QUOTE]Absolute rubbish. No one did more harm than Rabin and Barak. And giving the Nobel Prize to Arafat is a total disgrace of the Nobel Committee. Next time they should award it to Bin-Laden or Dubya for crap's sake. No offence here, KZ, but before you make such bold statements, take your time to investigate what's REALLY going on there, not what the TV (esp. CNN) is showing.

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I do not watch CNN, it is too americanised.

I would ask which side of the Israel question you sit on. The reason I ask is that, If you think Rabin did more harm than anybody else, then I would say that you were against his drive to settle the many disputes between Israel and the rest of the Arab nations, and possibly rejoiced when he was assassinated. I would like you to explain why you think this, and give us your perspective.

As for Yasser Arafat, please do not mistake me, he hasn't exactly helped matters by allowing the extremists to rule the roost in many Palestinian towns and he should not have been awarded the nobel peace prize.

My point was that many Palestinians have been refugees in their own land for some 35 years, after the six day war in 1967 saw Israel occupy large tracts of land, in spite of UN and US opposition. Their desparation to live normal lives is used ruthlessly by extremists who want to exploit and inflame the Jewish/Palestine situation further. There is no justification for suicide bombs, but you have to ask yourself how would you feel if you were a prisoner in your own land for so long, and how easily would you be manipulated into being a martyr to your cause by these extremists.

Calling it "spam troll" might fool your fellow Jews and Christians (and really, they're the same psychotic religion) but the fact is that I've been a participant here for quite some time and have had no problems until censored/attacked for content some here didn't "like."

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Originally posted by Knickerzohnonnof:
I do not watch CNN, it is too americanised.

I would ask which side of the Israel question you sit on. The reason I ask is that, If you think Rabin did more harm than anybody else, then I would say that you were against his drive to settle the many disputes between Israel and the rest of the Arab nations, and possibly rejoiced when he was assassinated. I would like you to explain why you think this, and give us your perspective.

As for Yasser Arafat, please do not mistake me, he hasn't exactly helped matters by allowing the extremists to rule the roost in many Palestinian towns and he should not have been awarded the nobel peace prize.

My point was that many Palestinians have been refugees in their own land for some 35 years, after the six day war in 1967 saw Israel occupy large tracts of land, in spite of UN and US opposition. Their desparation to live normal lives is used ruthlessly by extremists who want to exploit and inflame the Jewish/Palestine situation further. There is no justification for suicide bombs, but you have to ask yourself how would you feel if you were a prisoner in your own land for so long, and how easily would you be manipulated into being a martyr to your cause by these extremists.

Israel exists because of the agreement imposed upon the arab nations in 1947/1948, and many of them still fundamentally oppose this. However I fully realise that there is a long history of discontent in this territory. There is, and has been for many years, antagonism on all sides, but I feel Sharon has made matters much worse. Maybe now, with his latest address, this will change. I sincerely hope so for the sakes of all ordinary Jews and Palestinians who just want to live normal lives.

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Good post. I think it's obvious that Jews side with Israel because, how can they not? It's the central point of their ethnic identity, which is necessary for their worldview toward "outsiders."