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Topic: How the rest of the world views the United States
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Emlyn K Helicopter
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Member # 44
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posted June 19, 2003 07:46
The BBC ran an evening of debate and analysis the other day on how the world views the US of A. Thousands of people were polled in serveal countries (Brazil, Indonesia, Canada, France, Jordan etc) and the result was more or less this:Everyone thinks that the US is full of arrogant cunts who nonetheless are here to save mankind with their coca-cola and their "Bill Hayley and his Comets" rock and roll music thank you please. Interestingly, the ex-Premier of Pakestan, hitherto the most succinct, intellegent member of the panel which included Clair Short, a Palestinian chap and a US neo-nazi (sorry, neo-conservative) among others, suddenly said that everyone likes McDonalds because it tastes very good. Don't know why I'm telling you this actually, it's not going to change anything is it? Anyway, check URL=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/wtwta/default.stm]here[/URL] for more pointless info.
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LyKcantropen
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Member # 162
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posted June 19, 2003 10:45
Thankyou for protecting us from the Red menace you created anyway.The United States is still the only country ever to have Nuked someone else. You started building more bombs before anyone else had them. By the 1950's, the US had a nice cosy 10,000 bombs, Russia on the other hand had about a fifth of that. The arms race, red menace etc. was all propaganda so people would willingly watch their tax dollars pay for overblown government spending on various methods of killing lots of people. Oh, and so that the Soviets would take the bait, disposing of them the only way, realistically, the US could. But they caught on, eventually, y'see. In 1985 Mikhail Gorbachev gave the US a unique offer - complete, spontaneous disarmament of every single nuclear weapon they own, if America would do the same at the same time. The response? Guess. However, I'm not saying that the Soviet regime was good and just - far from it. I love history. Don't want to ofend anyone here, mind, so if you don't like anything, just say and I'll take it into 'consideration'. Oh, and Clinton put into place most of the 'Very Bad Things' Dubya is made to take credit for. Even though he's a cheating, lying, militant asshole from a family of cheating, lying stealing militant assholes, Duby ain't to blame for everything, Kids. The Democrats these days are like little Republicans with different wigs. Rant two over.
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LyKcantropen
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posted June 19, 2003 16:17
Well, I sorta made that statement out of a cowardly wish not to offend anyone. But yeah. We're all being conned that a big bad enemy is out there to get us so we let the governments shoot to hell freedom of speech, expression, thought and actions. Two words: 'Patriot Act'. Fun fact: The US spends something like ten (or was it a hundred?) times more on 'Defence' (big bombs to kill those that poverty and starvation don't knock out) than it does on it's education sytems. I would hereby like to raise a big: WTF!?
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Emlyn K Helicopter
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posted June 19, 2003 16:26
"Bringing this convo back to the American populace "Ok. In the BBC poll, opinions were sought of over American Culture, and by 'culture' the pollsters mistakenly (I think) meant McDonalds, Britany (not him! the popbitch I mean) Pepsi, 4th generation Hip-Hop made by white middle-aged businessmen... Thus, it seems most of the world doesn't think much of it. The youth lap it up, mind. But to me, American Culture is the music and the literature - a quick scan of my bookshelf (the one I like my visitors to see) is 90% American authors. Can't be arsed with looking over my record collection to see if its the same...Led Zep, Deep Purple, Sabbath, Maiden, Priest, Motorhead...oh, hang on... Where did I leave Mez? One day, Mez, you will see a starving African child cutting herself on a can of pepsi that she's fashioned into some crude tool, having grown an extra head from that GM corn you guys nicely gave them, saving up for a shot of that AIDS vacine you guys won't sell them, and you'll bury your head in your hands and then hold up the Stars and Stripes and say WHY? WHY? Then you'll realise you're in Zaire and it wasn't your fault after all. It was those fucking Belgians again.
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Hatröss
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posted June 19, 2003 17:44
Direct your strategy against authority. not the US of A. quote: Originally posted by Emlyn K Helicopter: Lyc, I think everyone hates us because of that whole slavery and concentration camp stuff we invented. It's like - get OVER it, man!
We invented, i say the chinese were practicing slavery before anyone 'their recorded history goes back 5000yrs' and not to mention African cultures who we probally adopted it from. In fact most of the bulk slaves that were traded to the early settlers (FOR GUNS) and other whiteman luxuries that gave their tribal leaders more and better control over their people and surrounding rival tribes, is most likely how it came to be. Not TheMan cruzing his sailboat to the shore of africa and sneaking on shore to hunt some humans down in the jungle (heh right !) Like the movie ROOTS. quote: I was having a telephone conversation with a member of this forum about a week or so ago and he was telling me about how only 2% of Americans have passports. The basic idea being of course that Americans don't travel to other countries, give a shit about other cultures, languages, religions....etc.. He followed this with something like "Americans don't even realize that other countries, cultures exist outside of the USA."
The reason most americans dont seem interested in other cultures is because... We have every damn culture here allready, and some new ones too! why travel all the way to china just to geta bowl of KungPowChicken. Shit man im finding myself looking the heck around to find where the american culture has gone everythings in different writing and shit. (oh im so lost) No one is free
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