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hypergrrl
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posted July 15, 2003 10:29     Profile for hypergrrl   Email hypergrrl     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Auburn, WA 7/12/03 - I'm not writing this to bash the band, but it is just my own observation and my opinion...So you all know how much I love the band and their music and they made their choices to be there, but they were so out of place on this tour!! They were the only band I was there to see, so it was hours of tortuous crappy music for me!

So after this lame-ass band called Hotwire played I was kind of encouraged when hardly anyone left the stage area. I thought, "Hmmm, okay maybe we've got some real fans here" albeit they all seemed about 16 years old on average Come to find out, there were a handful of real Voivod fans there, but mostly hordes of Jason fans who showed their true intentions of being there by going crazy only when Jason came to their side of the stage. Yup, they were all mellow, trying to sing along to the words (the new songs of course) and you didn’t see them vying for Piggy’s attention. They only played 3 old songs, one of which was the PF cover, and the rest new. I will say again that the new songs do sound great live. They looked like they had a great time playing - as they always do - but after they played I was saddened to hear someone announce that for a mere $20 I could purchase the new album and be escorted to the front of the line to meet the band!! Whoop-de-fuckin-do!! $20 for an album one could purchase for $13?? That really pissed me off and I didn’t get in line, although there were quite a few people in line to meet them (him?). After the show, which Ozzy didn’t play, we were listening to some Seattle radio station that was having a post Ozzfest show, and they played “Carry On” and after the song was over the DJ raved about how “Jason totally rocked!” No mention of the other members of the band – fuck that!

……and the absolute worst part of the experience was this:
Girl #1 – “Wow, look at that – it’s just an outline of a guitar!”
Girl #2 – “Oh, or is it a bass?”
Girl #1 - “Oh, it doesn’t matter, it just rocks!!”

Two little 14/15 year old dumbass chicks, you know the ones wearing the flare-bottom hip huggers with their baby fat hanging out and shit, up front lamely pumping their “devil horns” to someone they had no clue about...I’m sure even they weren’t stupid enough to pay $20 to meet the band.

Anyway, I really had to rant about that one. It was great to see them live again and I am definitely not trying discourage anyone - if anything, go to the stupid festival because Voivod is playing and hopefully you'll have good company as I did so that you can stomach the rest of it!! Oh, and my birthday is on Friday!!


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Mezcalhead
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posted July 15, 2003 11:33     Profile for Mezcalhead   Email Mezcalhead     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Great honest review there Grrl! Hahaha, this is the reason I avoided seeing my favorite band at Shamfest.

Happy early B-Day too!


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K
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posted July 15, 2003 11:43     Profile for K   Email K     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yes! Happy Birthday to you!
How many spankings do you want?

Thanks for the review.
BTW...Did you see Marilyn Manson or that other scarry band...damn...forgot the name.
Oh well. Nevermind.

Yeah....Jason ROCKS!


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hypergrrl
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posted July 15, 2003 16:55     Profile for hypergrrl   Email hypergrrl     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Yes, I saw MM and I just don't like the guy. Chevelle was very unimpressive, as was Korn & Disturbed (although I do like a couple of the Disturbed songs, all I could think of from watching from about a mile away was Vin Deisel??). We missed alot of the bands before Voivod from the small stage since we got there a little late.

Thanks for the birthday wishes and I'll take 33, please!


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X-D
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posted July 15, 2003 23:35     Profile for X-D   Email X-D     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hey Hypergrrl!

Thanks for the review! I passed up the opportunuty to check out the Ozzfest there in Auburn to go to a record convention instead... But I had some friends that went and they pretty much made the same observations.

Strange how Voivod is avoiding their core audience and pretending they never wrote or recorded Rrroooaaarrr, Killing Technology, Dimension Hatross, Nothingface (except that damned PF cover ), The Outer Limits, or anything with Eric Forrest! WTF?!

But hey, there's Angel Rat and that new album! Those should appeal to Ozzfest types who have been weaned on Godsmack, Kid Rock, and Korn. Bleah.

BTW - The record convention provided me with nice vinyl copies of Venom's "At War With Satan", Hawkwind's "Doremi Fasol Latido" and the new Alchemist cd for $5, making it worth the sacrifice of missing 20 minites of Voivod plus 9 hours for nu-metal hell.


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Juan87
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posted July 16, 2003 00:45     Profile for Juan87   Email Juan87     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by X-D:
[QB]Strange how Voivod is avoiding their core audience and pretending they never wrote or recorded Rrroooaaarrr, Killing Technology, Dimension Hatross, Nothingface (except that damned PF cover ), The Outer Limits, or anything with Eric Forrest! WTF?!

But hey, there's Angel Rat and that new album! Those should appeal to Ozzfest types...


It's becoming painfully obvious that this is the sole purpose for VV being on this tour...to attract a new audience who will maybe buy the new CD and back catalogue. Unfortunately they are not really there for the hardcore fans of old (like US ), but then again they don't expect any of us to put out $$$ to sit through all this nu-metal shit just to see them play.


Thanks for the review Hyper, the part about the little girls was a riot. Glad you got to see Voivod play some new songs at least.
Oh and Happy early BIRTHDAY!!


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LyKcantropen
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posted July 16, 2003 09:51     Profile for LyKcantropen   Email LyKcantropen     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I could agree with that Warcorpse. They should have aimed for the 'metal' crowd, the people who were into thrash and death metal and had an ear for inventive metal music, instead of the stupid kids my age who don't give a shit about anything other than image or being with the 'in' crowd. Or going back to the 'TOL' sound, which may have been good when alt-rock was still alive (vaguely) but is next to irrelevant now. The same ethic really should have applied to the tours, aim for that metal crowd, play those old, fast, nasty songs. Like what fuckin' Metallica, much as I hate to say, are doing. They're touring with the shittiest bands in existence, but they're playing a pretty damn good setlist, packed with the old songs. They're playing Blackened every fuckin' night, for god's sake.

People would like to hear 'Order of the Blackguards' or 'Nuclear War', or 'Tornado'. Face it, they have written some of the best thrash songs in existence, play to your strengths. And if they want weird, throw in 'Nothingface' and 'Into my Hypercube' or something.

Urgh, I can feel the negativity coursing through my veins. I've ranted too long, and most of it's bullshit anyway. Gah.


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h
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posted July 16, 2003 09:52     Profile for h   Email h     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by warcorpse:
I really think Voivod are not in touch with their core fans, the new fans or the scene.

I don't think they've ever been really in touch with the scene. And it's being out of touch that contributed to thier real moments of genius. I only wish they were more out of touch now so we could have more weirdness!!


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Slaytanic
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posted July 16, 2003 11:20     Profile for Slaytanic   Email Slaytanic     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by warcorpse:
As I sit here watching Voivod's second attempt at making it big I wonder why, in both cases, their music is not even close to what is popular in the music scene. If Voivod, on Ozzfest, wore bullet belts, spikes, army pants and played "To The Death!" or "Order of the Blackguards" do you think the kids at Ozzfest would take a closer look? Yes! (maybe)

Well, looking from that perspective, it would have been far better for Voivod, fan-wise, to have done the tour with Nile and Napalm Death. Anyway (hope I'm wrong), the nu-metal kids will hardly get into Voivod's music at all, it's just too complicated for their fragile little heads.

I speak for myself on this, I would have paid loads of money to see THAT tour, instead of fuckin' Ozzfest. Nile, ND and Voivod on the same bill? Couldn't get any better, could it?


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nia
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posted July 16, 2003 11:31     Profile for nia   Email nia     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Right on h.

This whole topic reminded me of Liz Phair. Who's Liz Phair you ask? She wrote a couple of seminal indie records in the early 90s, "Exile in Guyville" being one of them. I liked it, it's straight ahead guitar rock but it's sassy. Anyway, this year she released a record that she co-wrote with Avril Lavigne's writing team and moved towards a more radio friendly sound. A quote from Phair "You don't get the full impact until you actually go through it. . ." (sound familiar?) To make a long story short she dumped her core audience and her new record was widely panned by the critics. Unfortunately she thinks the criticism is about her wanting to sell more records and her attempt to climb out of the indie ghetto. It's not. It's that she has put out much better material in the past and even though she had the writing input of the Matrix and a lot more $$$ to work with, this one leaves her old fans, and potential new ones, indifferent.


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h
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posted July 16, 2003 11:52     Profile for h   Email h     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
It happens all the damn time, and I'm sure it'll happen again.
Let's just hope that the game plan is:
1) Release a record that covers the more mainstream angles.
2) Follow it up with one fantastic bitch head fuck of a jazz concept double album on vinyl only, and not that proper vinyl either, I mean the floppy kind that comes free on the front of Sounds magazine and needs a coin placed on the middle to stop it slipping.

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nia
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posted July 16, 2003 11:56     Profile for nia   Email nia     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Flexi discs! Genius! So h, I expect my EOLB flexi by Christmas. Thank you.
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Gorf
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posted July 16, 2003 12:32     Profile for Gorf   Email Gorf     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Interesting observations Warcorpse, and Lycanthrope-

Well, you know how I feel about the tour.

You can never do your fans justice doing 35 mins. after being away for ten years. They could have gone with harder material on the set. But really, they are just getting re-started.

I am pleased with the new album not being an absolute grind-fest. I am getting old too, and Snakes grooves and melody are enough these days.

I am sure the next album will be even heavier, not because it said so in the rumors but because it will be challenging for them to accomplish something more, and I think they will go for it.

I know some of you guys are closer as friends to the band. You might suggest for them to keep their options open for getting on another tour after Ozzy. Either as a supporting band or on a package of Thrash bands.

In the fall, new Destruction will be out. And Exodus later. Heck jump on the crummy Anthrax tour if it helps. get on the Lacuna Coil tour.

But you gotta reach the metallers again, and with a bigger, longer set.

I think most metallers know Ozzy is passe in a major sense, and skipped this Ozzfest. Plus, the economy is bad for expensive endeavors.

Its all nice to pay homage, I did with "No More Tears," some 11 years ago.
But everyone knows hes passe, and needs to retire. He should have five years ago. But the American marketing machine wouldn't allow it, the money is too tempting.

That anecdote of the Voivod CD sale to meet the band reminds me of the Ozzy "farewell"
tour of "No More Tears."

For 25 bucks you could get your photo taken with Ozzy and a couple of big, fake breasted bimbos.


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hypergrrl
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posted July 16, 2003 13:39     Profile for hypergrrl   Email hypergrrl     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by warcorpse:
Away once said that some people that post here are 'negative',

I knew there was the possibility of stirring up the shit when I posted my 'review' and the comment by Away was in the back of my mind the whole time.

If they do actually visit this site (which, by the way, Piggy said they really don't have the opportunity to), I would hope that they would expect a little criticism (good & bad) from long-time fans who really care about them & their music.

But in the end, when it's all said and done, what I think about them doesn't matter one bit as I am facing the possiblity of my cat losing her tail! Damn curious little fuckers


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nia
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posted July 16, 2003 13:50     Profile for nia   Email nia     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hey hypergrrl, sorry to hear about your cat!

And if it makes you feel any better about Ozzfest focus on the fact that all those bands you saw on the 2nd stage paid about 74,930 more than you did to be there.


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hypergrrl
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posted July 16, 2003 14:13     Profile for hypergrrl   Email hypergrrl     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thanks Noitall! Stretch will confined to a small carrier for the next 6-8 weeks You know she's just loving it, too

As for Ozzfest, a friend of mine was just telling me the other day how I tend to only see the worst in situations, so here now are my "Top 10 Reasons That Ozzfest Was Actually A Rockin' Fesitival Even Without Ozzy":

    10. It was hotter than fuck when we got there, but were lucky enough to be over 21 to enter the airconditioned beer building!

    9. Beer in the 'beer building' was only $7.00!

    8. It was hotter than fuck, but luckily the clouds rolled in just in time for Voivod!

    7. I saw and spoke briefly with one very cute male Voivod fan who wasn't 15 years old!

    6. Got to eat really nasty, expensive food with no guilt because I had no other alternatives!

    5. Witnessed a lemon and shampoo fight between he "grass" people and the people in the expensive seats!

    4. Snuck into the expensive seats for free!

    3.My friends came up with a new nickname for me: "Korn - the food of my peeps" (you had to be there)!

    2. I got to see a young girl, who had obviously been drinking illegally, puke up her guts right in the middle of a busy walkway - and I got to gag myself, too!

    ...and finally, give me shit about it if you'd like:

    1. Jasonic was on the other side of the stage!


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nia
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posted July 16, 2003 14:20     Profile for nia   Email nia     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Pre-rehab I'm sure you could have got the thumbs up for the 2nd stage from young Master Jack, Corpse. You're probably shit out of luck now that he's stone cold sober.
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LyKcantropen
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posted July 16, 2003 14:29     Profile for LyKcantropen   Email LyKcantropen     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by warcorpse:
Wow $80,000 to play in Ozzfest. I think you also need to get appoval too, or hell, I'd take out a loan and setup my full stack on the 2nd stage. "Helloooo Texas!!, I am WAAAARRRR COOOOORRRPSEEE!! (open E) GRRRROOOWWWWLLLL!!"


Lol!


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Slugaloo
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posted July 16, 2003 18:50     Profile for Slugaloo   Email Slugaloo     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Happy b-day hypersis! Hello everyone.
It seems that Stretch and Clyde are both missing tails! That and 'seeing the worst in situations' runs in the family Mom said Ozzfest was cool last night!

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hypergrrl
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posted July 16, 2003 19:19     Profile for hypergrrl   Email hypergrrl     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by slugbutt:
Happy b-day hypersis! Hello everyone.
It seems that Stretch and Clyde are both missing tails! That and 'seeing the worst in situations' runs in the family Mom said Ozzfest was cool last night!

Well, it's about time you showed up around here! Welcome to another hardcore Voivod fan - hyperbro a.k.a. slugbutt, very cute

But Stretch is not tailess yet. I thought you went to the show too? What happened? Glad Mom enjoyed it. If you have speakers, you must listen to the Metallica parody - you will laugh your ass off!


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hypergrrl
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posted July 17, 2003 17:01     Profile for hypergrrl   Email hypergrrl     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by slugbutt:
Hello everyone.

Umm...I think you'd better start a new thread and introduce yourself hyperbro! I know that you hang out around here so I know that you know that they won't bite

hypersis said she hung out with Piggy on Tuesday and mentioned that he had some very interesting things to say....like that he really likes the Southwest, among other things


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Slugaloo
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posted July 17, 2003 19:27     Profile for Slugaloo   Email Slugaloo     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
umm yes, i thought about that so i'll do it later. i'm melting right now!
nope didn't go to the fest as the show sold out very quickly so i drove by the venue and yelled "you suck" to everyone except mum, sis, cuz and Voivod!
And I think what Piggy really likes about the SW is our sis!
oh... question...why am i a "junior"voivodfan!?!?!

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hypergrrl
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posted July 17, 2003 19:43     Profile for hypergrrl   Email hypergrrl     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Ha ha! Let's not be starting rumors around here! As for the Junior, I believe it may have something to do with the amount of posts you have....maybe someone could clarify??

BTW, which cuz?


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K
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posted July 18, 2003 07:42     Profile for K   Email K     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Welcome to the Insain Asylum, Slugbutt!

Watch out for the following people though...they are quite crazy...

Emlyn K Helicopter
Mezcalhead
NoItAll
Tangento
BCoD
H
Lycanthropy
and of course.....Hypergrrl


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hypergrrl
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posted July 18, 2003 11:11     Profile for hypergrrl   Email hypergrrl     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by King Kula:
and of course.....Hypergrrl

Watch out for me? Sweet, little ole innocent ME!! I think you and Mezcalhead should watch out cause big brother is now on board and I am adding your name to the TOP of that list. He's a trouble maker, as I am sure you know SB!

Besides, you must be nice to me today anyway....still waiting for the 33 you know whats!!

WELCOME ABOARD SLUGBUTT!!


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