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Topic: new nothingface? erase errata-crystal palace
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VoivodFan
Member # 209
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posted October 23, 2003 10:29
Yeah, Erase Errata is a 4-girl/woman band from Oakland/San Francisco, CA...to tell you the truth, I think the bassist really has inherited the Blacky's Blower bass sound, really. Check it out. The guitarist has that scratchy, crazy chord and single note captain beefheartian/gang of four/killing joke sound that piggy has on nothingface...the drummer consistently kicks the crazy, catchy, ever changing rhythms, and the singer does her thing...overall, think voivod's nothingface plus captain beefheart, gang of four, killing joke, six finger satellite's awesome "the pigeon is the most popular bird" which everyone here should own, and jesus lizard, king crimson, dog faced hermans, ex, slint, oxes, live skull, earlier sonic youth, early siouxsie and the banshees, bauhaus, joy division, drive like Jehu, Germbox, syd barret era pink floyd, Christian Death's Only Theater of Pain, Pylon, Swan's "Filth," AC Temple, and this should give you some vague and relatively innacurate sense of where erase errata's music lies...My whole thing is that to ever achieve a Nothingface again, Jason really has to step up on bass...Blacky really had a whole sinister funk/new wave/disco thing going on in his bass on Nothingface...same thing with John Wetton's awesome bass on Lark's Tongue in Aspic and Red by King Crimson...that awesome prog rock bass is really funk/disco derived, funky, start stop, hard hitting, on the "one" beat often, much more active and intricate than normal metal bass playing. Can Jason play this way? That's what differentiated Blacky's playing on Nothingface from any other Voivod album since then, though Blacky was definitely developing this sound on Killing Technology and Dimension Hatross. And Piggy's guitar and Away's drums were much more funk/disco, well death-disco oriented on Nothingface too. Not to say dancey, but more beat oriented and rhythmically start stop and complex. Piggy's guitar had those twisted, high pitched chords, scratchy chords that he mostly abandoned in later years for a heavier sound. Even on Killing Technology and Dimension Hattross he had more intricate and high pitched guitar than the lower, heavier sound of albums since. If you really want to know where this nothingface prog rock/post punk sound comes from, it's EARLY 70's JAMES BROWN. Seriously. Check out the collection the CD of JB or James Brown 70's Funk Classics--like doing it to death, super bad, soul power, the payback, sex machine, etc. Tight, intricate, rhythmic drums, and funky, hard hitting blacky bass (the best is with the pre-funkadelic/parlament bootsy collins, originally in James Brown's band), and crazy, scratchy, abrasive, high pitched rhytmic guitar--lots of prog, post punk, and nothingface is a more experimental, twisted take on this 70's manic James Brown funk. Like Six Finger Satellite's amazing "The pigeon is the most popular bird," or much Captain Beefheart, or PIL, or early killing joke--it's twisted scratchy disco cords, mutated disco basslines and drums, like on Nothingface. Well, so that's where I think Erase Errata's album for me is the new nothingface, besides the fact that it's an album the likes of which I've been waiting to hear for a long time...Hopefully voivod can pick up some of that quirky, complex, experimental intricate death disco, post punk, prog rock, new wave-no wave sound they sort of had/stumbled upon? for nothingface. If not, it'll be good anyway...and throw in some solos this time!
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nia
VoivodFan
Member # 9
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posted October 23, 2003 11:02
quote: Originally posted by GarbageDay: To my opinion, Black Dice was THE WORST show I have ever seen in my life, including everything. It was lame and gay at the same time.
tell me more! why was it lame and gay? (i haven't seen BD live and i've heard it can be an, um, difficult show) lol nell, leaky bag of donkey feces.... thanks for such an indepth description of your point of view, anything. i found that interesting to read. (although i think the overall quirkiness, ie changing meters, had more to do with an influence from music like stravinsky). agreed on 6FS.
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GarbageDay
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Member # 361
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posted October 23, 2003 15:37
quote: Originally posted by Noitall: tell me more! why was it lame and gay? (i haven't seen BD live and i've heard it can be an, um, difficult show)......
Well, maybe my expectations were too high. I mean, don't get me wrong, I've seen every other asshole with his laptop do a gig, and some of the music was at least interesting. These guys, they were boring AND the sounds were just too "safe" maybe, or just stupid. They looked like the kids I wanted to tit-slap, just the look in their eyes. They had no soul. They looked more bored than I was. Or maybe it was the setting- I saw them at the NO MUSIC festival in London, ON. Which took place in this hall that was a cross between a church and a high school auditorium-two of the most boring places. Thank god Incapacitants played right after, though, which was THE BEST act I have ever seen, no joke.
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