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Topic: Berlin and Poland Pictures
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LyKcantropen
VoivodFan
Member # 162
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posted February 18, 2005 11:51
I've just got back from a week long visit to Berlin, Krakow, Auschwitz-Birkenau and Warsaw, and I have a few pictures you might be interested in seeing, especially if you've never been. There's one of my ugly mug with a couple of jokers you might recognise too. Berlin Jewish Museum, Garden of Exile Berlin Resistance Memorial Plaque to Von Stauffenberg et. al. The Wall Sea of Crosses, Checkpoint Charlie Me Arbeit Macht Frei Auschwitz #1 Auschwitz #2 Auschwitz #3 Birkenau Krakow, Marketplace Krakow, Park in the Snow Great trip, and a real eye-opener. Berlin and Krakow are great places, Warsaw less so, which is understandable given the city's history. Simply walking around a lot of the places gives an intense feeling of the events which transpired there - crossing over the Vistula on a tram to the spot where Stalin parked his armies while the Battle for Warsaw raged for 63 days, sitting in the office where von Stauffenberg plotted to kill the Fuehrer, standing in the park where thousands of books were burned by the Nazis. Auschwitz in itself was, understandably, an unpleasant experience, but one I'm glad I had. The place is surrounded with a palpable air of depression and misery. The "museum" parts are essentially superfluous, the place speaks for itself. We were lucky enough to have an excellent guide, as well, who wasn't afraid to dispel any sense of superiority we English might have had - the British, after all, invented the Concentration Camp, with the Americans did nothing to halt the process at the camp, and the western allies did nothing to oppose the practical annexation of Poland after World War Two.
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hypergrrl
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posted February 18, 2005 17:06
quote: Originally posted by Lycanthropy: [QB]...with the Americans did nothing to halt the process at the camp...[QB]
Not to get all political or anything, but maybe America was too busy conducting a little genocide of their own: the Native Americans. Most of us know the history. We weren't even recognized with cititzenship until 1924! The right to vote came even later than that. When we went to the Holocaust Museum in DC last September, I couldn't help but see similarities in the way Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, etc. were treated and the way the indigenous people of all of the Americas were treated. Basically as non-human. I was almost glad we got there late and had to rush through. What surprised me the most was the amazing amount of documentation of the Nazi agenda. That was frightening. I can't imagine actually visiting any of those conentration camps.
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schroeder
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posted February 18, 2005 17:42
GREAT PHOTOSThanks for sharing them with us. Sometimes it's hard to consider yourself a 'proud american' with such a fuck up history we have left behind. There is nothing to be proud of in the way this country has treated so many different cutures and people with different lifestyles. HOME OF THE FREE??? gimme a break -------------------- yawn
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