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KnickerZohnonnof
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posted July 20, 2004 13:00
Emotive, but little else.These sites can claim what they want. Will they be so damning about Muslim violence towards the West? No. How about the many suicide car bombs that blow up innocent Iraqi civilians? Or is that 'legitimate' insurgency? -------------------- Hail Santa...
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posted July 22, 2004 07:45
quote: Originally posted by Hatross:
and that is coming from a propaganda matrix site ?
Ummm...NO, Hatross. That is coming from a U.S. Military Camera. It doesnt matter which website I got it from. The fact that the Mainstream News Outlets wont show that Video, should tell you something. But its nice to know that you support that sort of thing. The blatent murder of innocent Protestors. (Those people were not "Insurgents.") LEGION. Even if it was quick...still doesnt make it any better than getting held for days with your head sawed off in the end. Both acts are horrible anyway. I guess you would agree. One being blatent, stupid Murder by Islamic Extremeist Idiots...and the other by American Extremeist Idiots (Military).
Yep...They were all "Liberated" in the end werent they. Winning the Hearts and Minds of the Iraqi people...in pieces.
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KnickerZohnonnof
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posted July 22, 2004 10:47
quote: Originally posted by Hatross: and that is coming from a propaganda matrix site ?
quote: Originally posted by Number 6: Ummm...NO, Hatross. That is coming from a U.S. Military Camera.
I believe the point raised here is not so much who took the image, but how it is portrayed on the websites you plucked it from. How do you know who they were? Were you told? Officially? Or did you just take the anti american line as normal? If they were just ordinary people then it's not acceptable. If however, they are insurgents then they are a legitimate target. Case closed. quote: Originally posted by Number 6: It doesnt matter which website I got it from. The fact that the Mainstream News Outlets wont show that Video, should tell you something.
Yes it does. It tells me that they won't show a video showing people being blown to bits because children might be watching. quote: Originally posted by Number 6: But its nice to know that you support that sort of thing.
Yes, if they are insurgents then I support the action. quote: Originally posted by Number 6: The blatent murder of innocent Protestors. (Those people were not "Insurgents.")
Show me the proof. AS I said earlier, none of us really know who they are. quote: Originally posted by Number 6: LEGION. Even if it was quick...still doesnt make it any better than getting held for days with your head sawed off in the end. Both acts are horrible anyway.
Yes, but there is a subtle difference between instant death and feeling your own head being sawn off with a machete as you die. quote: Originally posted by Number 6: One being blatent, stupid Murder by Islamic Extremeist Idiots...and the other by American Extremeist Idiots (Military). Yep...They were all "Liberated" in the end werent they. Winning the Hearts and Minds of the Iraqi people...in pieces.
I think I've said enough times...the insurgents target anybody, they don't care for the collateral damage. The Allies target as best they can, and try to avoid collateral damage. This has gone wrong on occasion, granted, but the fact our forces try and avoid civilian casualties tells me enogh to know there are two mindsets at work. One that wants to work for the Iraqis, the other who doesn't care a damn who they hurt as long as they hurt someone. -------------------- Hail Santa...
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KnickerZohnonnof
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posted July 22, 2004 11:16
quote: Originally posted by Number 6: Knicker...Stop your nagging. I dont have to show you proof of anything. You wouldnt believe it if you did see it anyways.
Nagging is it? Oh dear, we are getting in a tizz... I'm afraid you do have to show proof because I think you're about as far removed from reality as it gets. -------------------- Hail Santa...
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KnickerZohnonnof
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posted July 22, 2004 12:54
quote: Originally posted by Number 6: How funny. That is EXACTLY what i think about you too! Seems we are at an impasse.BTW..I am not in a tizz or whatever. Today is a good day, in a good mood, happy as a bug in a rug. I still dont have to proove anything. So...
So you think that I'm removed from reality? How do you come to this conclusion? My opinion of you is based on the countless threads to anti bush/jew sites and in some cases supporting the views of former Nazi party members. What is your opinion of me based on? And yes, you do have to prove things. That you can back up your claims with your own words rather than somebody else's. That you can argue in a mature and sensible way, and not throw your toys out of the pram because one of us doesn't agree or questions the legitimacy of your claim. How about that for starters? And today IS a good day actually. I'm now off work, so it's time to play! -------------------- Hail Santa...
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posted July 22, 2004 14:49
I have indeed. It is no worse than what the CIA and others do. Wrong is wrong. Period. Murder is Murder. Its not "Liberation" as the Politically-Correct word says.The Americans / British / Israelis...are no better than Saddam or his dispicable sons. Here is a News bit for interest: :::::: KABUL -- The leader of a group of westerners arrested in Afghanistan on suspicion of illegally detaining and torturing alleged Islamic militants said yesterday he was working for the United States government, and he had evidence to prove it. Jonathan "Jack" Idema said he had been in frequent contact with the Pentagon and other US agencies in the course of his work tracking Islamic militants in Afghanistan, including al-Qaeda members. "We were working for the US counter-terrorist group and working with the Pentagon and some other federal agencies," Idema said before his trial opened. "We were in contact directly by fax and e-mail and phone with Donald Rumsfeldís office," he said, referring to the US secretary of defence.
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KnickerZohnonnof
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posted July 22, 2004 21:08
quote: Originally posted by Number 6: Toys? Pram? Damnitt Granny! Will you stop saying that? Its becoming irritating. Nag nag nag.
Another dumb answer. This means you have no answer, which is fine by me because it just proves I'm right about you. -------------------- Hail Santa...
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