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infoterror
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posted July 01, 2005 23:14     Profile for infoterror   Email infoterror     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The purpose of the Fascist formula, the ritual discipline, the uniforms, and the whole apparatus, which is at first sight irrational, is to allow mimetic behavior. The carefully thought out symbols (which are proper to every counterrevolutionary movement), the skulls and disguises, the barbaric drum beats, the monotonous repetition of words and gestures, are simply the organized imitation of magic practices. . . .
--Horkheimer & Adorno, Dialectic of Enlightenment 184-85

Metal, indeed, might be viewed as the epitome of popular music's two most extreme dangers: a dehumanizing, de-individualizing techno-mechanization; and a mystifying, irrationalist "retreat" (however illusory) back to humankind's primordial "rhythmic" origins--to speak diachronically about a tension between myth and reason that Horkheimer and Adorno often deal with in a more synchronic fashion. And yet, with the hegemonic ascendancy of industrial capitalism, the twentieth century seems to represent a new "culture-shock" turn-for-the-worse in Adorno's exposition of his ongoing rational/mythic dialectic. When the rationalist in Adorno must speak of a century cursed by Hitler and Auschwitz, it is only understandable that The Dialectic of Enlightenment has, at these points, a very "dystopian" feel to it (Hohendahl 126), and that Adorno's intellectual angst and pessimism are readily transferred from the jackboot to the jitterbugger, from the martial frenzy of the Fascist collective to the fanaticism of the pop-music audience.
http://www.usd.edu/~tgannon/hm.html

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Ne0rC
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posted July 01, 2005 23:43     Profile for Ne0rC   Email Ne0rC     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Can't music in genral be though of as in the same words? Not just metal itself.


Also, what he considers Metal is not metal but really Classic rock.

Ah, right. Anus.com again. Seemed to be like the trash you guys usually post.

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psychoblast
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posted July 04, 2005 01:03     Profile for psychoblast   Email psychoblast     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The philosopher...you know so much about nothing at all.
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shargraves
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posted July 04, 2005 08:03     Profile for shargraves   Email shargraves     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
That is utter drivel.

The second passage isn't even in English.

The two charges against metal are both invalid. Has he even heard dance music - a single repeated/sampled phrase - thats cynical fascism for ya!

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LyKcantropen
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posted July 04, 2005 08:50     Profile for LyKcantropen   Email LyKcantropen     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Snoozeworthy.
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KnickerZohnonnof
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posted July 04, 2005 13:30     Profile for KnickerZohnonnof   Email KnickerZohnonnof     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Usual moronc anus shit. Appropriate name for the site really...

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THRASHING RAGE
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posted November 03, 2005 11:29     Profile for THRASHING RAGE   Email THRASHING RAGE     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
HEAR THAT GUYS! WERE NAZIS! wanna go like, fight over france and build death camps and stuff?

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guidon
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posted December 25, 2005 05:57     Profile for guidon   Email guidon     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'm not reading all of that.
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LyKcantropen
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posted December 27, 2005 07:11     Profile for LyKcantropen   Email LyKcantropen     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Why!? Why do we keep bumping these threads! Let them die! (He says, knowing full well what he's doing... shush).
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